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gloomyteens
sourcedumal:

sailorfuckshit:

gloomyteens:

this is so sad

i don’t understand why the president is being blamed for gun violenceand not NRA lobbyists who block any attempt at firearms reform

Nobody calls it Chiraq except people who dont know what the hell is going on here..
And note that this increase in violence comes after the school closings…..

Look, I’ve already sworn not to discuss Chicago with people who believe that Chiraq bullshit

sourcedumal:

sailorfuckshit:

gloomyteens:

this is so sad

i don’t understand why the president is being blamed for gun violence

and not NRA lobbyists who block any attempt at firearms reform

Nobody calls it Chiraq except people who dont know what the hell is going on here..

And note that this increase in violence comes after the school closings…..

Look, I’ve already sworn not to discuss Chicago with people who believe that Chiraq bullshit

goingdownthebayou

goingdownthebayou:

I am so sorry this is so long. I didn’t mean for it to be like this, tried arranging some side by side but the size difference is jarring.

Don’t reblog this, The reblog friendly link is right here.

So sorry for the major scroll!! <3

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princess-nietzsche

A word about bronies. (Massive Content notice for threat of sexual assault, child sexual assault, attempted child abduction, and bullshit from later commentators.)

brigidkeely:

telegantmess:

madamethursday:

nancaia:

rhazade-waterbender:

oreides:

saintcheshire:

So I just got back last night from a brony convention in San Francisco. I was working a booth for a vendor friend, and let me tell you what happened:

We met a little girl who was there with her family. She got a button drawn at our booth, told us all about her favorite ponies, and was overall just too damn cute. She had an MLP lanyard filled with pins she’d gotten in the vendor’s room, and gave me a Fluttershy pin because she liked my cosplay. She ended up just hanging out with us for a while and bein’ super cute. We call her Babby because she’s 11 and precious.

The next day, she runs up to the booth, terrified, and asks if she can please hide under our table for a few minutes. Turns out a dude had been following her around the con all day, and tried to get her to come up to his hotel room. Alone. She tells us she thought he was okay at first because he was wearing an MLP shirt, but she didn’t want to go anywhere with him, and he made her uneasy. At one point, after she’d refused, he grabbed her arm in the elevators and tried to get her to follow him. She ran, and now she wants somewhere to hide.

We tell her of course, hurry her behind our booth and fucking station ourselves around her because she’s eleven years old and all of us are prepared to physically attack the human trashheap who tries to fuck with her. We’re all dressed up in wings and ears and we’re 100000% prepared to rip them off and launch across that table to defend this kid. Eventually this very large dude strolls by, very obviously looking around, and she quietly points him out to us. At this point I’m ready to set him on fire, but when I ask if she needs me to go report him, she shakes her head. She doesn’t want to get in trouble, or make anyone mad.

We see him a few more times over the course of the day, because he keeps meandering over to our booth and just casually looking around. Eventually he actually stops to take a flier from our table and asks us a question, and we coldly send him on his way. We start sending a coworker with Babby whenever her parents aren’t around and she wants to go check out artist’s alley or the vendor’s hall. Because otherwise she’s not safe. She can’t run around and freely enjoy a convention about a show aimed at her, because instead of being surrounded by peers she’s somehow surrounded by men who pose a threat to her.

My point here: this is why I fucking hate “bronies.” Because grown-ass men are flooding into a space carved out for children—often little girls—and are making it unsafe for them.

I met a lot of non-awful people there, of course. I met a lot of parents and older siblings. A lot of adorable little boys who were happy to empathize with female characters, and a lot of little kids who wanted a picture with cosplays of their favorite pony. I met a lot of people who were cool and nice and just liked cartoons. I met a male Pinkie Pie cosplayer with a Fluttershy lady-friend who juggled and spun plates and was happy to entertain kids, and were generally just really cool people.

But I also met a lot of skeevy dudebros. A lot of guys in fedoras loudly discussing sexual shit in a room with children. Guys who drew/sold/displayed really fucking inappropriate “fanart,” including gross bodypillows that had no purpose in a little kids’ toy convention. I met a guy who gushed with absolute glee about the pleasure he derives from “corrupting innocence.” I met a lot of people who wanted to take something sweet and nice for children and make it about THEM. A lot of guys who wanted to make it about their dicks. People who made it UNSAFE for the intended audience to even be in attendance.

So yeah. If you call yourself a brony, I’m prolly not gonna trust you. Because I’ve seen y’all in action, and I am not impressed. Frankly I’m infuriated. This is like a bunch of gross neckbeards swarming Disneyland and shoving kids out of the way so they can grope Cinderella, and finding nothing wrong with it because they think they’re entitled to it.

My Little Pony is a really cute show with a lot of nice messages for kids, and gross brony shitweasels are trying to fucking take it from them by force. And I will fight them.

wHOA WHOA WHOA WHOAAAAAAAA!!!!!

hold up.

wait a minute here.

you’ve made a fantastic point here and all, but listen, are YOU TELLING ME. THAT AN ELEVEN YEAR OLD GIRL RAN TO YOU. TERRIFIED. JUST NEARLY GOT ABDUCTED. BY A STRANGER, AN ADULT MAN. WHO TOUCHED HER. ALONE IN  AN ELEVATOR.

and you let that predator walk free?

the little girl is scared of reporting him and you just go with it? what the fuck. whAT THE FUCK. THAT LITTLE GIRL ISN’T THE ONLY LITTLE GIRL WHO’S IN DANGER. 

LISTEN YA’LL YOU CAN MAKE ALL THE GREAT POINTS YOU WANT ON TUMBLR BUT IF YOU MEET A CHILD WHO CONFIDES IN YOU THEY FEEL UNSAFE, EXPLICITLY TELL YOU A GROWN MAN IS HUNTING THEM OUT TO DO AWFUL THINGS TO THEM AND LITERALLY ABDUCT THEM, WHAT THE FUCK? YOU GET THAT PIECE OF SHIT IN JAIL. YOU HAVE SOMEONE KEEP HIM BUSY AND YOU GET THE FUCKING COPS. WHERE WERE HER PARENTS?? YOU ARE AN ADULT!!!! ACT LIKE ONE AND PROTECT LITTLE GIRLS AT ALL COSTS!! WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU???? THAT GUY WAS FREE TO WALK OUT OF THERE AND CONTINUE BEING A GODDAMN PREDATOR I’M

…yeah, someone should have actually done something about that scumbag.  Keep in mind that the bystander effect is a thing, and don’t be yet another bystander.

what the fuck is wrong with op seriously

hey, OP, you could possibly still do something about this. if you saw the guy so often you could probably describe him to cops and con organisers and shit. maybe they had cameras running they can get images of the guy from. maybe other guests did.

and not giving little girls the idea that not reporting predators when you have other adults literally surrounding you to keep you safe is the right choice. that’d probably be good too.

Fuck the commenters. Because you know what? I bet a lot of other bronies witnessed this as well and did shit all. At least the OP and her friends physically guarded this child. They were not bystanders by any means and fuck you again. 

You keep saying “get him thrown in jail” but you know how rarely that ever happens? Because con organizers are very likely to take a skeptical if outright hostile and useless stance towards this and these women know it. 

Not to mention that if they did get a cop to mosey on down there, this eleven year old kid would have to try to articulate what happened and the cop would say “there’s no evidence” and “if I didn’t see anything, I can’t help you” and “it’s her word against his”. 

I’ve had friends who were grown ass women when they reported rapes that they had good evidence for and they got cops telling them not to bother filing a report, there was nothing the police could do anyway.

So don’t act like the option to “tell” someone about this is totally there and totally reliable. Don’t act like con organizers who run these things weren’t already making it clear that they were willing to cater to bronies by letting them do all those things without saying “hey, keep it kid friendly” or “watch your merchandise, there are kids around”.

You keep talking like there’s this perfect system that’s totally in favor of victims that will act swiftly to protect the well being of little girl who experience an attempt at an assault or even actually are assaulted/raped.

There’s not. Okay. You keep acting like there was good, reliable help to get in the first place.

I’m here to tell you THERE IS NOT. I was targeted by a grown ass man who picked me up in a fandom meant for kids when I was 13/14 years old. And let me tell you, there ain’t help to get. Because we live in a system where the onus is on the victim to prove, to a standard that juries seeking death penalties aren’t held to, that they were not only raped/assaulted but that they were “good” victims who didn’t do anything wrong. 

This kid WOULD have been asked if she’d done anything to make this man think she wanted to go to his room. This kid WOULD have had it implied or outright said over and over again that maybe she “tempted” him. 

Moreover, this kid was already traumatized and hiding in a booth. You really think she’s gonna be able give a statement to the police that they’ll take seriously?

Teaching a kid not to trust the police is a fucking survival skill for all too many kids on this planet and in the U.S. So don’t yell at these women because, when faced with a system that would’ve ground this kid into dust and just added to her trauma, they decided to roll with what made the kid feel safest and most at ease and took it upon themselves TO PHYSICALLY GUARD HER. 

What they taught this kid is to trust her instincts on who to trust and who not to trust. They taught this kid that she was perfectly RIGHT to know who to run to in an emergency and who to run FROM in one. 

So just fuck y’all who are more concerned with yelling at the OP for what she didn’t do rather than maybe concentrating that energy on telling bronies and all the other predators of the world not to fucking grab 11-year-old girls. If people put that much vehemence into stopping rape culture, there wouldn’t be this shit at all. 

But nope, let’s blame the one person who ACTUALLY DID SOMETHING USEFUL. 

Dear nancaia, rhazade-waterbender, and oreides,

You know what is also a part of rape culture? POLICING THE DECISIONS OF ASSAULT SURVIVORS WITH REGARD TO HOW THEY HANDLE THEIR ASSAULT.

The idea that choosing not to go to authorities is the “wrong” choice, as one of you pretty plainly stated, is only coherent if you assume that the authorities can be trusted. And as studies of rape culture have found again and again, authorities are often perpetuating the problem. 

The fact that you think its appropriate to accuse the people who respected this child’s wishes with regards to her own experience of not doing the right thing tells me that at best, y’all don’t get it and at worst, you would rather survivors revictimize themselves to placate your sense of a just world than be given the autonomy to do as they feel they need to.

The OP is a fucking hero in this particular situation, and you three need to seriously reassess your priorities.

ha haaaaaaa it’s so great that people are policing/judging/taking to task OP who specifically asked the minor what she wanted to do and then respected her decision and NOT the community of grown fucking men who at best tolerate and at worst SUPPORT/promote that kind of behavior.

All you contrarians so convinced that con staff/cops will believe a young woman or even care care? Ask yourself how many cons even HAVE guidelines for appropriate behavior? How many cons even HAVE harassment policies? How many cons have harassment policies but then don’t follow through on them or make exceptions for BNFs? How many people (usually but not always women) report stalking, threats, sexual violence to people in positions of authority INCLUDING THE POLICE and are not believed, accused of making things up, ignored? And then dragged through the mud if they dare talk about it online?

There is a BIG FUCKING PROBLEM with fandoms and cons where women INCLUDING CHILDREN are considered prey by a LOT of people. The past few years there’s been a lot of cons instituting harassment policies with zero tolerance riders. And there’s been a LOT of pushback against that, too. If you take issue with a grown adult man trying to abduct and rape a minor (because seriously, i doubt he wanted to comb and style pony toy manes in the privacy of his room with her), then put pressure on cons to step up and institute comprehensive harassment policies and enforce those policies, and put pressure on the toxic, harmful fans who are perpetuating this behavior. Do NOT “call out” adults who are doing exactly what a targeted victim has requested, keeping her safe and feeling secure. That seriously shifts the blame from the person doing the harmful thing to the victim (who requested nobody report the dude) and the people actually intervening to keep her safe.

I’m going to lay it on the line here: If you identify as a Brony and you do NOT call out this behavior when you see it, you are a piece of shit. If you’re willing to sit back and excuse a grown adult man trying to abduct and rape a little girl at a convention designed for her, you are a huge part of the problem and supporting the scummiest predators there are. If you “don’t want to get involved” when you see toxic shitmonsters bragging about “corrupting innocence” and all that bullshit, you have lost your ability to call yourself a member of the human race. You are JUST AS BAD as those fuckers because you are protecting and supporting them, letting them know that you think what they’re doing “isn’t that bad” and is excusable. You are letting them know that what they’re doing is perfectly fine, and they will be protected from consequence. You are implicitly stating that it is acceptable behavior that you endorse in your community. You’re a dude who likes MLP? That’s awesome! I hope you get much joy of it. But if that joy comes at the harm and expense of little kids then fuck you. Seriously.

Cop for him or an alibi for me. Those are the only choices on the table.

wizzard890

I read your Winter Soldier analysis, and I have a question : you say that "There’s a reason his code name is drawn from an investigation into one of the ugliest chapters of American history." Please help a non-American understand what you meant? I mean I obviously see the Cold War reference in the movie, but from what you've written it seems like something more subtle *within* the Cold War... shit, I mean just "Cold War" seems too evident and I can't find the deeper meaning?

Anonymous

liveship:

wizzard890:

Oh gosh, don’t feel bad, there are plenty of Americans who have never even heard of this.

The Winter Soldier Investigation was a 1971 veteran-organized media event intended to draw attention to the war crimes that had taken place in Vietnam. Directly inspired by the exposure of the My Lai Massacre (the mass murder of over five hundred unarmed civilians by American troops) in 1969, Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) brought together discharged servicemen from every branch of the military to discuss the atrocities they had seen and committed during their time in the war. They hoped bring these tragedies before the public eye, and to prove that American military policies led directly to the death and torment of civilians. Eventually a transcript from this conference made its way before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee during the Fullbright Hearings.  

When Ed Brubaker, the author who wrote the original Winter Soldier arc, chose the name, he wanted something that would call up both cold Siberian winters and the atrocities of war. This fit the bill.

But the term itself, the idea of “winter soldiers”, was coined by VVAW as a response to the writings of Thomas Paine, who described the men who deserted at Valley Forge during the American Revolution:

These are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country, but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman.

A winter soldier is someone who will warm their hands over a meager fire and weather the cold. Someone who refuses to abandon their country and its potential, no matter what the personal cost.

So how’s that for a weird little twist? According to Thomas Paine—activist, political philosopher, and revolutionary—the real winter soldier is Captain America.

#plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth

bluelightvine
pallet-town-julie-brown:

tintomatotop:

yinx1:

teflonwonton:

yinx1:

locsgirl:

thefemalegoonie:

eriannny:

reflectionof1:

MODERNITY IN SHAPING THE STATUS OF AFRICA Both Cost 150,000 US Dollars.

gtfohhhhhhhh

Soo does a man come with the Nigerian house or nah?

Dang

Man usually comes with the house but there are some for the single lady’s.
Seriously our house in Lagos is about this big. America doesn’t know jack about “third world” countries.

errrr… yah. but then you wake up and you’re in Africa.. its not just about the square footage or amenities of a home but you must consider the neighborhood.. do i feel safe with who is living next door? is there clean, running water? is there wildlife to be concerned with? what are the roads like? and seriously most importantly DO I HAVE HIGH SPEED INTERNET. I AM NOT DOWNGRADING TO 56K. NEVER AGAIN

Okay, so I see I need to give a geography lesson, let’s see if I can say this humanly

1. The OP said Nigeria NOT “Africa”
2. “Consider the neighborhood”? What kind of IS is that?! People are PEOPLE wherever you go. You have your rich you have your poor. You have your smarts, and you have people like you that spout IS. 
3. Seriously, roads?
 
THIS IS LAGOS, NIGERIA HIGHWAYS…Looks a lot like LA…HMMM.

4. Wildlife? We have wildlife in the states; bears, deer, my mother saw a coyote outside her office window and she works 20 minutes away from downtown. What are you suggesting?
5. Lastly this is the stupidest thing. Internet. Is it not the Nigerians coning your gullible American asses out of your life savings. So much you it has cause alarm, and has government protocol so your stupid grandmother does send her savings thinking she can get rich quick. I think Nigeria has Internet and HIGH SPEED under control
I suggest you read, adsorb, learn and apply. Before spouting off about “Africa” again. =_=


TELL ‘EM 

People are stupid . I learned in high school that every country has a working, middle and rich class and that American countries only show impoverished people in poc countries to get your coins. Then we watched Nigerian drama movies

pallet-town-julie-brown:

tintomatotop:

yinx1:

teflonwonton:

yinx1:

locsgirl:

thefemalegoonie:

eriannny:

reflectionof1:

MODERNITY IN SHAPING THE STATUS OF AFRICA
Both Cost 150,000 US Dollars.

gtfohhhhhhhh

Soo does a man come with the Nigerian house or nah?

Dang

Man usually comes with the house but there are some for the single lady’s.

Seriously our house in Lagos is about this big. America doesn’t know jack about “third world” countries.

errrr… yah. but then you wake up and you’re in Africa.. its not just about the square footage or amenities of a home but you must consider the neighborhood.. do i feel safe with who is living next door? is there clean, running water? is there wildlife to be concerned with? what are the roads like? and seriously most importantly DO I HAVE HIGH SPEED INTERNET. I AM NOT DOWNGRADING TO 56K. NEVER AGAIN

Okay, so I see I need to give a geography lesson, let’s see if I can say this humanly

1. The OP said Nigeria NOT “Africa”

2. “Consider the neighborhood”? What kind of IS is that?! People are PEOPLE wherever you go. You have your rich you have your poor. You have your smarts, and you have people like you that spout IS. 

3. Seriously, roads?

 

THIS IS LAGOS, NIGERIA HIGHWAYS…Looks a lot like LA…HMMM.

4. Wildlife? We have wildlife in the states; bears, deer, my mother saw a coyote outside her office window and she works 20 minutes away from downtown. What are you suggesting?

5. Lastly this is the stupidest thing. Internet. Is it not the Nigerians coning your gullible American asses out of your life savings. So much you it has cause alarm, and has government protocol so your stupid grandmother does send her savings thinking she can get rich quick. I think Nigeria has Internet and HIGH SPEED under control

I suggest you read, adsorb, learn and apply. Before spouting off about “Africa” again. =_=

TELL ‘EM 

People are stupid . I learned in high school that every country has a working, middle and rich class and that American countries only show impoverished people in poc countries to get your coins. Then we watched Nigerian drama movies

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floricanto-desnuda
yes, denny’s lost a $54 million law suit for being anti-black.

here’s another source.

ETA: i’m going to affix my second post here, because this has gone a little viral, without the best sources. bear in mind, my initial discussion of this topic began as a response to props for the denny’s tweet about coachella and its implied wrongs of cultural appropriation.

i did ask everyone to complete further research. thus far, i’m seeing reblogs, but no further comments. c’mon, now. like certain agencies and news outlets, i withheld pertinent information about this case, hoping you jovenes would go find it. no? seriously? why not.

okay. did you find the fact that the head of the DOJ’s civil right’s division, deval l. patrick, remarked at the time, that this was the largest and broadest settlement ever paid under federal public accommodation laws? those were federal laws—not state statutes—enacted over 70 years ago, now, to end segregation in restaurants and other public places serving the public.

so, what actually happened, to bring denny’s to the attention of the DOJ’s civil rights division (and: did you know the DOJ has a civil rights division, with various branches, including housing?). 

majority of the claims came from black customers. this included a black federal judge from houston, traveling with his wife, who was forced to wait nearly an hour—while white patrons were served, and white teens taunted the black couple with the word “n*****.” no one from the staff did a damned thing.

one of the first complaints came in 1991 from a group of 18 young black men, who were asked to pay before service, at a denny’s in san jose, california. the men complied—but they also filed a suit against denny’s.

in 1993 (some articles have the date wrong), uniformed members of president clinton’s u.s. secret service were refused service in Annapolis, by a white waitress, because they were black; meanwhile their white secret service counterparts were seated and served. the black agents filed a complaintand one denny’s corporate public relations offices obviously couldn’t ignore.

1997 saw the rabid beatings of 6 Asian American students from syracuse university. after the standard treatment of denny’s “wait while we serve the whites,” the students complained to the management and their server, so were forced to leave the restaurant by security called by the manager. the students stated a group of white men then emerged from the restaurant and attacked them while shouting racial slurs. several of the asian students were left unconscious

what denny’s paid was a class action lawsuit for racial discrimination. claims proven during that case were settled, by any person of color (called a “minority,” in the suit). the overwhelming majority of those who had proven claims were black customers. denny’s clearly had an overall agenda upholding white supremacy.

ironically (and sadly), after the $54.4 million settlement, the restaurant chain went all out to win back its percentage of people of color—especially its former 10% black customer base. their public relations department featured sherman hemsley and isabel sanford, in one television commercialFortune magazine selected denny’s as “best company for minorities” in 2001; Black Enterprise gave top space for the chain in their “best companies for diversity,” in 2006 and 2007. read more about the effects of denny’s “grand slam” advertising, by doing some research. seriously *s

now consider why denny’s has its public relations department sending out these bold "calling out" messages, that manage to "raise awareness" about cultural appropriation. even for some of us who are critical of the tweets, there’s the thought that, “it’s not a bad idea.” well, it worked, didn’t it? mm.

c/s

~canéla

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I called out their motives the other day, didn’t I? 

I said they was apologizing for not letting Black folks eat, lol.

SEE THROUGH.

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misterjakes
feelonious:

spiritual-nippills:

My fave animal

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feelonious:

spiritual-nippills:

My fave animal

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dianarossweave:

odinsblog:

Five Myths About Crime in Black America—and the Statistical Truths

In the wake of Trayvon Martin’s death [and Renisha McBride and Jonathan Ferrell], we’ve seen a lot of discussion of the larger societal issues that play into how and when people are perceived as criminals. There were hoodies, there were marches, and there were frank talks from parent to child about how to minimize the danger of being a young person of color. On the other side, there were justifications of George Zimmerman’s actions: a smear campaign against Martin’s character, and plenty of writers explaining that statistically, blacks are simply more dangerous to be around.

That framing ignores the realities behind the numbers. Here are five myths about crime and people of color.

Shani O. Hilton

BEEN LOOKIN FOR THIS

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tinytimetravel

tinytimetravel:

"Mothers will come into their own when state pays for its children", from the Washington [DC] “Times”, 4/19/1914 [p.13]. In this interview, William P. Borland, Congressman from Missouri, provides some fascinating insight into the origins of the modern welfare state. In 1914, there were about 15 states in the Union that had what were called “pension laws” on the books providing for the care of widows and orphans of men who died on the job in industrial labor. These laws typically required the mother to stay home, rather than work, in order to receive her pension, which Borland argues creates “entire dependence” upon the state. Although his argument is partly based on racism (“why should the colored mammy who can take in washing…make more money than the educated woman who cannot wash…?”), Borland argues for a system that pays these mothers a supplement in addition to whatever money they can make via work. The reporter argues that the welfare payments should be provided by the corporation for which the husband worked, rather than the state, but Borland counters that of course that is true, but the corporation would simply pass along its costs to the consumer. Better that the state pay for the mother to care for “its” children. No mention is made of welfare for anyone other than the widows and orphans—and presumably only white widows and orphans—of working men, but in the curious and repeated reference to people being children of the state, we can see the origin of a philosophy that would lead to the social safety net with which, for better or worse, we live today.

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medievalpoc

Do you feel that there is racism in the ASOIAF books' representation of its PoC other than the general lack of them? (It seems like very many live in its WORLD but don't proportionally participate in the story). Which brings up another question I have: Have you ever written a post concerning the extent to which individual authors have a responsibility to represent PoC? If you have, I would very much be interested in reading it.

medievalpoc:

Absolutely.

If you want to talk about “responsibility” on the part of individual authors, you can go ahead and read it from the horse’s mouth.

He really believes he is basing this story on history, and that is his response to lack of and poor representation of people of color in his stories:

So let’s talk about the internet controversy about Oberyn Martell. Do you have any thoughts on that?

I commented on my blog. You can find a more studied response there. I made a couple of comments as to what people said about that. I always pictured Oberyn Martell in my head as a — what I call a Mediterranean type. I know people attacked me for that by saying “He’s ignorant, he doesn’t know that Africa is on the Mediterranean.” No, I know Africa is on the Mediterranean. But in common parlance, when you say Mediterranean you are thinking Greek, Italian, Spanish. When you are thinking Moroccan or Tunisian that’s North African. That’s the way people talk about that.

I always pictured the Martells and the salty Dornishman as Mediterraneans, so the casting I think is perfectly appropriate with what I wrote in the books. I do sympathize. I mean, I understand.

Some people have written me some very heartfelt letters, and I’ve tried to respond to them about how they wanted to see someone who looked like them in the books, and how they were [disappointed]. They had pictures of the Martells looking like them, and they were disappointed.

I understand that, but it still wasn’t my intent to make… Even the terminology here is such a land mine. I don’t even know what words to use here “black” or “African.” I used African at one point, sort of like African American. [But] if you use “African” you are guilty for saying all Africans are the same.

I don’t know. I am drawing from history, even though its fantasy. I’ve read a lot of history, The War of the Roses, The Hundred Years War. The World back then was very diverse. Culturally it was perhaps more diverse then our world, but travel was very difficult back then. So even though there might have been many different races and ethnicities and peoples, they didn’t necessarily mix a great deal. I’m drawing largely on medieval England, medieval Scotland, to some extent medieval France. There was an occasional person of color, but certainly not in any great numbers.

^ I consider this to be a cop out. Added on to the fact that he seems more concerned about getting criticized for using the wrong word than massive disappointment on the part of his own fan base. It more or less reeks of “everyone’s so P.C. these days! Ugh!”

I mean, there is plenty of historical precedent for even large numbers of various people of color in all of those nations. You can read articles about forensic archeology and recent discoveries that have challenged these notions to the breaking point. Like, as in 20% people of color. Take 4th Century York, England. According to Dr. Hella Eckhardt:

It helps paint a picture of a Roman York that was hugely diverse and which included among its population, men, women and children of high status from Romanised North Africa and elsewhere in the Mediterranean.

Eboracum (York) was both a legionary fortress and civilian settlement, and ultimately became the capital of Britannia Inferior. York was also visited by two Emperors, the North-African-born Emperor Septimius Severus, and later Constantius I (both of whom died in York). All these factors provide potential circumstances for immigration to York, and for the foundation of a multicultural and diverse community.

I can tell you the same things about Scotland, France, Central Europe…all these regions had seen large influxes of immigrants in the late Roman and early Medieval Eras. After all, these people didn’t just disappear hundreds of years later when historians decided a new “period” of history had begun! There’s plenty of primary sources and documentation that many specifically Black people lived and worked in various Medieval European cities and towns.

Also, speaking of Empires, there was also a rather important Mongolian Empire that happened firmly within an time frame that is pretty universally recognized as “Medieval”. Which, very unfortunately, brings us to the Dothraki.

Here’s GRRM, from the same interview, on the Dothraki:

People complain that the Dothraki are this one-dimensional barbarian society.

I haven’t had a Dothraki viewpoint character though.

I guess it’s too late to introduce one now.

I could introduce a Dothraki viewpoint character, but I already have like sixteen viewpoint characters. I could kill some of my viewpoint characters, to get down to the seven or eight I started with, or some numerical equivalent. The Dothraki are partially based on the Huns and the Mongols, some extent the steppe tribes like the Alvars and Magyars. I put in a few elements of the Amerindian plains tribes and those peoples, and then I threw in some purely fantasy elements. It’s fantasy.

Are they barbaric? Yeah, but the Mongols were, too. Genghis Khan — I just saw an interesting movie about Ghengis Khan, recently. I’ve read books about Genghis Khan, and he’s one of history’s more fascinating, charismatic characters. The Mongols became very sophisticated at certain points, but they were certainly not sophisticated when they started out, and even at the height of their sophistication they were fond of doing things like giant piles of heads. “Surrender your city to me, or we will come in and kill all the men, rape all the women and make a giant pile of heads." They did that a few times, and other cities said, "Surrender is good. We’ll surrender. We’ll pay the taxes. No pile of heads, please.”

*puts hands over face*

*groans*

Okay, let’s talk about how and why a guy who “reads a lot of history” gets this kind of idea about Mongol people, and apparently friggin Plains NDNs people as well (TW for murder gore, rape at link and f*ck you very much Mr. Martin, jeeeeebus.)

There is no equivalent for the Dothraki in history. What people point to most often is the Mongol invasions in Asia and Europe, but these generalizations are originally extrapolated mostly from the accounts from invaded nations written by someone who had heard this or that about what had happened. I’m not saying like, “such and such never happened” I’m saying it didn’t always happen, and also that there’s a lot more to the story, and also that this narrative dominates for a reason.

We’ll do an example. Here you have something like this from UWGB, which heads up their “Mongol Values” section with a supposed quote from Genghis Khan. Here’s what the claim is, right? We have this translation of something he supposedly said here:

The greatest joy a man can know is to conquer his enemies and drive them before him. To ride their horses and take away their possessions. To see the faces of those who were dear to them bedewed with tears, and to clasp their wives and daughters in his arms.

Okay, so basically, Conan the Barbarian. The article, which, might I remind you, is on a college site, goes on from this to say:

Or to paraphrase it in the bluntest possible modern terms: “To kill people, take their property, see and enjoy the pain you have caused their families, and rape their women as a final gesture of power.”

Okay, well that’s is a pretty big “I decided this means exactly what I already expected someone I think Genghis Khan was like would say.”Even if you did decide to take this at face value…that’s still not the casual attitude toward sexual violence the Dothraki demonstrate, it’s the opposite.

I could go into how women in Mongol culture had a great deal of power (which doesn’t necessarily translate into conquered women being perceived as equivalent, but might I remind you that Dothraki women in ASOIAF appear to be chattel with zero bodily autonomy evidence of sentience, for the most part), or how women having sociopolitical power does not equal a lessening of sexual violence by necessity….but.

I could mention that the way in which Genghis Khan was able to stabilize and actually rule such a vast empire was by giving conquered MEN to his DAUGHTERS in marriage, but then took these husbands out on campaign with him, and replaced them as needed when they died. Or that his empire was actually inherited by his daughters.

And then this article goes on to make statements about we know from Genghis Khan’s attitudes and sadistic enjoyments (more or less) that hope for humanity’s goodness will always be futile, because there will always be Hitlers and Stalins.

^^^That is their section on “Mongol Values”. D:

Soooooo……yeah.

People who claim that GRRM’s Dothraki are realistically based on Mongolian or Plains NDN culture are pretty much in “Einstein and Hammurabi Disco Dance in a Hot-Air Balloon" territory.

Thanks to Historians like the above and GRRM, people think “Mongolian=pile of heads, nonstop rape” . There’s no Khutulun, Wrestler Princess, among the Dothraki. There is no Queen Manduhui, no Lady Hö’elün, no Empress Chabi, no Sorghatani Beki, no mention of The Great Khanum and eight princesses Ruy González de Clavijo saw and marveled at in 1403.

GRRM took a society of women who could own property, divorce at will, hold political office and positions of military command, and replaced them with visibly dirty, grunting animals being raped publicly in the dirt [tw link for an image of what i just described].

Because “historical accuracy”.

Because oh, well it’s already done and it’s too late to change it now.

Actually, all of it sounds incredibly familiar:

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"We cannot simply change it"

"I could introduce a Dothraki viewpoint character, but I already have like sixteen viewpoint characters"

"I guess it’s too late to introduce one now."

It’s always too little, too late, try again, make your own, better luck next time.

So, when do we get to stop being force-fed vile stereotypes with our fantasy? When do we get wish-fulfillment and escapism?

The bottom line is, I don’t know because the this is the industry right now:

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How are supposed to break the vicious cycle of whiteness in publishing, whiteness of SF/F authors, whiteness of characters, othering, misogyny, degradation, stereotypes, and a history of a Black-White Good-Evil dichotomy?

Why does it matter? Because people think this is real, people think this is accurate, people think this is acceptable, people think this is historical, including, apparently, the people who are writing these stories.

We must change the narrative to change our stories, because lies about the past are in danger of dictating our futures.