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karnythia:

Also, can we talk about how the onus is on black people to speak up for Asian people, but apparently not on Asian people to speak up for black people in colorblinding’s world? Like, how one sided is your concept of coalition building & solidarity that you can’t see that basic two way street, never mind consider how many of the people being addressed are mutiracial? Like, the identity policing & politics being laid out in these conversations (every damned time no less) always boil down to a place where we’re supposed to act a certain way & accept certain things or we’re the problem. Somehow these convos never include the idea that we have a right to dictate any part of the discourse, much less our own feelings.

I JUST SAID THIS

she’s talmabout she watching black tumblrs carefully to see what they reblog

uh, bitch, watch your own damn self because your peeps outside of the same damn 4 people wasn’t even LOOKING over here AT ALL

and from someone who has spoken to her on aim, i can guarantee she was not “carefully reading and paying attention to” all of these black tumblrs

and as if MILLIONS of black people didn’t have to lose their fucking LIVES over HUNDREDS of years to finally at least be recognized by SOME people (not colorblinding, apparently!) as ‘deserving’ basic fucking humanity.

i didn’t see us asian-americans putting our lives on the line by the millions and fighting and dying for years and years and years to get some BASIC, VERY basic recognition, only to STILL be shat all over by even our fellow POC.

like, fuck you, colorblinding. fuck you.

I’m just going to point out that historically, Asian workers did not rebel in the same way other POCs did because of the fear of deportation.  If you didn’t agree, you were kicked out of the country. The choice was between degradation and providing for your family back home, or learning how to adapt to being treated like shit.

can we talk for a second about how for asians the fear was deportation, and for black people the fear was rape murder and torture? of yourself and  your family? sanctioned and enjoyed by other citizens? and used as celebrations and entertainment? 

HOW can you compare this to deportation? HOW? i’m not sitting here saying that asian-americans have been through nothing. we’ve been through a lot of shit. but you’re sitting here saying that deportation was a reason asians did not rebel?

BLACK PEOPLE FACED DEATH RAPE AND TORTURE. THAT’S NOT A BIGGER RISK?

Hence the whole “model minority” thing with Asians assimilating. And yes, part of that assimilation was discerning themselves from “The Black People.”

POCs are often historically pitted against each other.

But as an Asian blogger, I’m just going to say this:

Yes, Black causes tend to get more visibility, but it is because historically, BLACK PEOPLE HAVE BEEN THE RUBRIC FOR WHAT IS NOT WHITE. 

Throughout American history, Asians have either been shat on, or (in the case of Middle Eastern and Filipinos) considered white.

um. NO. NOT TRUE. idk WHERE you got that from.

Why? Because they WEREN’T. BLACK.

Yes, there are issues that are pan-POC, and there are some issues that do not get recognized by the media and are perpetuated by other POCs that are exclusively asian problems (I hate to say this, but I have been approached by many Black men who have really strong Asian fetishes. Asian fetishization is not white-exclusive).  

that is correct. but like we said, how many asians have died to change this, again? instead, i see our fellow asian americans shitting all over black people to get ahead. that is what i see.

That being said, it doesn’t fucking matter in this context. Because you want Black people who blog about Black problems and Black issues to suddenly become YOUR spokesperson too.  

They’re not. 

Yes, sometimes it helps to “work together.”

But there is no way in fuck you can convince me that somehow it’s a Black blogger’s obligation to put aside their own personal experiences and causes to advocate for yours, just because of their visibility. 

No. Fuck that.

IT IS NEVER OK TO SIDELINE ONE CAUSE IN FAVOR OF ANOTHER. 

OK, here we go:

can we talk for a second about how for asians the fear was deportation, and for black people the fear was rape murder and torture? of yourself and your family? sanctioned and enjoyed by other citizens? and used as celebrations and entertainment? 

HOW can you compare this to deportation? HOW? i’m not sitting here saying that asian-americans have been through nothing. we’ve been through a lot of shit. but you’re sitting here saying that deportation was a reason asians did not rebel?

….OK, I also didn’t mention the whole lynching, rape of plantation women, and the fact that Chinese people were denied rights in court, as well as the Japanese Internment camps. I’m going out on a limb here, but I’m going to say that “fear of deportation” Is NOT SUPPOSED TO BE AN EQUIVALENCY TO SLAVERY.But I am saying this: historically, the fear of deportation and thus, lack of ability to support one’s family back home is historically a reason for why Asian people did not wish to engage in upfront rebellion. Because for Asian people, it was a choice of “Stay here, be degraded, and accept it, OR complain, get your ass deported, lose all your money, and have to figure out a way to pay debtors and creditors without selling your children. Literally.” 

Throughout American history, Asians have either been shat on, or (in the case of Middle Eastern and Filipinos) considered white.

um. NO. NOT TRUE. idk WHERE you got that from.

Look up the whole Filipinos in Louisiana deal. They were buried in white cemeteries. IN terms of Middle Eastern people, in the early 20th century, they were treated as white. That’s also something you can google. 

that is correct. but like we said, how many asians have died to change this, again? instead, i see our fellow asian americans shitting all over black people to get ahead. that is what i see.

and this is true. but only PART of what we’re arguing here. the other part you are trying to deny and make excuses for.

Please tell me how pointing out that this bitch was wrong as fuck is somehow making excuses for her?
My entire reblog was about how yes, historically, Asian people have different attitudes towards racism, even if they are targeted in similar ways.  WHICH MAKES US DIFFERENT, WHICH MEANS REALLY YOU NEED TWO SEPARATE DISCOURSES IN THE FIRST PLACE.
I was POINTING OUT the otherness and the contributing factors to anti-blackness, and why, in the end, the differences DO MATTER in the sense that “you cannot force other people to stand up for your rights and complain about visibility when Asians historically have assimilated by hating on other POCS.”
I have no idea why you are calling me an apologist.
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    My Asian friends always had my back on that front.
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    o_o; reblogging to read later ‘cause I dunno shit about my own culture lol.
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