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Just your friendly neighborhood fanboy.: goldenmochi: Lord of the Rings was written in a different age, in the…

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goldenmochi:

ray-assbutt:

goldenmochi:

Lord of the Rings was written in a different age, in the 1950s. I’m not saying that’s a good excuse, but attitudes were different back then, so you can’t really compare things like that to modern books who should know better than to class ANY over-all race as the bad guys.

Okay, first, LoTR wasn’t written in the 1950’s. Second, “a different age” isn’t a secret code for “racism is fine.” It was just as wrong then as it is now. And it’s not just bad because of some abstract concept of morality - not seeing or reading about people like yourself in a positive role has a measurable impact on the way people perceive themselves, especially people of color. THAT’S why LoTR is problematic - because it was part of the trend where POC are ALWAYS cast as the bad guys. Which is the excuse white people have used for genocide and colonialism and murder for a long time.

I know Tolkein’s work influenced a lot of the genre, as HP Lovecraft did with the sci-fi horror genre, and yes, there is an awful lot of rascism in there. I’m not saying its okay. Its awfully uncomfortable stuff. I’m just saying that back then, people didn’t know better. They should have done, but they didn’t. 

We can’t change the past, but we can change the future, and by doing that is taking new steps forwards into how we present and show race, by showing that race shouldn’t be an issue. That it isn’t down to race that makes a person good, bad, whatever, but it is the person themselves.

Racism is incredibly bad and shouldn’t exist. But if books keep putting it out there that an over-all race is bad (as said, white, black, whatever, it doesn’t matter!) then it is still racism and shouldn’t be a thing.

No. Reverse racism is not a thing. Racism against white people is not a thing. POC don’t have the institutional power to oppress us.

Wanting more poc characters in stories is because there aren’t enough poc characters in stories who are a) developed characters, b) not racist stereotypes/always the villains.

Wanting to show white people as the bad guys is because a) white people have historically been the bad guys on a global scale. Our ancestors were the ones responsible for colonialism and the reason racism exists. So it’s pretty much actively racist to say “omg don’t show us as the bad guys that makes me uncomfortable!”

And b) a privileged group generalizing an oppressed group (in this case white people and poc respectively) gets the members of the oppressed group killed, while the oppressed group making generalizations about the privileged group has absolutely no effect on the privileged group other than “i’m white and this makes me uncomfortable because for the first time I’m being confronted with something other than the idea that my race is the default, the pinnacle of beauty and goodness, etc etc etc.”

I suggest that you take a step back from this conversation and take some time to educate yourself on racism, because what you’re arguing is ignorance and misinformation.

Yes, LoTR was written in a different age (and earlier than you think—I am not google, look it up yourself). Tolkein was writing heavy-handed comparisons to things going on in his world—the destruction of the natural environment, the destructive power of the new machines of war, the industrialization of what was once peaceful, idyllic countryside. It’s possible he is actually more heavy-handed with allegory than CS Lewis (with whom he was friends, thus their works share certain similarities). And yes, he did have “different races” that were, like Spock, “like” us, but “different” from us too. That may have either been all he thought he could get away with at the time. 

The more likely explanation is that Tolkein was much like his peers—sexist (notice the females in the story mainly serve to propel the men forward?), racist, classist and homophobic. He was an ivory tower academic. Insanely smart. But that can lead a person to be sheltered. And the others of his ilk were similarly products of their time—racist, sexist, classists. 

That’s how the world was. That was who got an education back then, and that is who wrote things and got them published. 

THAT SAID. When you do a modern adaptation, you have the opportunity to go not only build on those old themes of war and industry and the destruction of the natural world and mens greed, and whathaveyou, becuase they’re still modern themes. But you have the opportunity to present that fictional world in a way that is more representative of our modern values. With inclusion. With… some chicks. Though I did appreciate the facial hair on the background and very briefly seen female dwarves. Galadrial isn’t in that scene in the book, but if they hadn’t put her there (she does advance some plot points thru her conversation with Gandalf though) the movie would have been a complete and total fucking sausage-fest.

You can interpret it for a modern audience AND you can correct some of the mistakes of the past. Tolkein created an amazingly in-depth world. But he was not god. He was a fallible man, prone to the prejudices of his time. 

I am a HUGE Sherlock Holmes fan. I think Arthur Conan Doyle is a very interesting real-life character. But he was still racist and sexist as fuck. He actively worked against the sufferage movement. And he was all pissed off that everyone liked Sherlock Holmes and not his “serious” works, which include a history of the Boer War which is both boring and OMG MORE IMPERIALIST/RACIST PROPAGANDA than anything by Kipling. The Lost World SOUNDS fun. Dinosaurs and big game hunters, right? RIGHT? No. It is soooo racist (and there’s a total lack of chicks) that it is actually kind of painful to read. 

They were men of their times. They may have even been good and decent. But they were fallible. There’re things we know better about today, and we should attempt to live up to that. I think we have a responsibility to try. 

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goldenmochi:

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underthestarssofaraway:

girljanitor:

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mylesbiansensesaretinglingagain:

girljanitor:

Okay, so I had planned to write a big long review of this book, but you know what? It’s too fucking good.
You need to buy this book.
It is a fantasy novel. It is the best fantasy novel. It is in a fantasy universe populated with protagonists of color, and evil white people. There are a few good white people, but mostly evil white people who have wayyyy too much power and are evil.
You need to buy this book if only for the scene where the disabled Black woman protagonist picks up a bottle of white people shampoo, sniffs it, and just rolls her eyes and thinks, are they expecting me to use this astringent shit on my beautiful Maroneh(Black) woman hair?
It in particular is actually the second book in the series, but I accidentally read it out of order the first time (and have since read the other) and it didn’t particularly suffer from being read out of order.
You need to buy this book.
There is also a bit of sexy sex. The exact right amount of sexy sex.
I cannot tell you how much I fell in love with this book. All three, but in particular this one was my favorite.
There is also a significant amount of queer sex in the trilogy. QUEER PEOPLE OF COLOR.
This is N. K. Jemisin. She wrote this book.

You need to buy all of her books.
I plan to.

just bought this, can’t wait to read it

IT’S SO GOOD. IT GAVE ME LIFE. ALL THREE ARE SO GOOD BUT THIS WAS MY FAVE BECAUSE OREE IS SO AMAZING.

I got to ‘fantasy world with protagonists of color’ and that was all I needed to know.

seriously, it’s sooooo good. It made me go out and buy fresh art supplies i maybe can’t afford just so I can start making fan art.

As a white chick, I think I’ll pass but thanks. I’m so done with being told I’m evil because of my skin color. 

Oh look a white person making it about themselves. Surprise, surprise.
Really, it’s not that simple. It’s not your skin color. It’s centuries of white supremacy and lack of (positive) POC representation, especially in Sci-fi & fantasy. Anyway…
I am definitely adding these to my reading list! Yay for more books that actually feature POC characters.

Either way, if it’s telling me my group, as a whole, obviously including me, is evil, then no thanks, I’ll pass. It’s awesome that PoC have books featuring main characters they can relate to; I just don’t want to touch it with a ninety-foot pole is all. xD Have a wonderful day!

I CAN SHOW YOU A WOOOOORLD
WHITENESS, SHIMMERING WHIIIITENESS
TELL ME WHITEY NOW WHEN DID YOU LAST READ A BOOK WITH POC
I CAN OPEN YOUR EYYYYYES
TAKE YOU WHITE GIRL BY WHITE GIRL
SO MANY SPARKLING WHITE GIRLS IN EVERY FUCKING BOOK
A WHOLE WHITE WOOOOOORLD
AN OLD AND TIRED POINT OF VIEWWWWWW
NO ONE TO TELL YOU NO!
OR WHAT TO READ!
OR SAY YOU CAN’T BE RACIST!!!!!
THE SAME FUCKING WOOOOOORLD!
THE SAME WHITE FAIRY VAGINA!
NO ONE TO GIVE A FUCK!
IF YOU READ THIS BOOK!
OR SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASSSHOOOOOOLEEEEE

this is the most beautiful song i’ve ever heard
*wipes tear from eye*

Wow… If this was any other fantasy book in the stance where people of colour were the bad guys and the white people were good there would be the usual uproar and complaint. So its a bit backwards for it to be happening again. 
Showing any overall race as ‘the bad guys’ isn’t a good thing. There are good people and bad people of all races, and it shouldn’t be limited to a particular race in general. Yes its unfair of the racism in fantasy novels of non-whites being treated as the generic ‘bad guys’ but having any over-arching group being labelled as ‘bad’ is the wrong way to go about doing something about this problem. But as a white girl obviously my opinion doesn’t matter in this regard. 

“the usual uproar and complaint” over the LoTR books and the “swarthy hordes” of sauron?
ohhhh by “uproar and complaint” you meant “multibillion dollar machine driven by infinite multinational book sales and six movies”
Are you enjoying your sour grapes since you had to walk so many miles to find them, white girl?


Lord of the Rings was written in a different age, in the 1950s. I’m not saying that’s a good excuse, but attitudes were different back then, so you can’t really compare things like that to modern books who should know better than to class ANY over-all race as the bad guys.

That’s really missing the point. (And it was the 1930s but whatever). The point is that you, as a white person, do not know what this book means to POC. We white people have been THE only mainstream good guys in scifi/fantasy since it started. The idea that we should all be color-blind is bull, because to so many people, white IS the default whether they realize it or not. And so it is not unreasonable for POC, especially WOC, to be excited about this book and what it represents to them. The chance for THEM to be seen as the good ones, in a scifi/fantasy book written by a WOC? Don’t even tell them they shouldn’t be happy about it. If it makes you uncomfortable to have our race cast as the baddies… well, maybe you should think about what it would feel like to have that be constant and unrelenting. I think you need to back off this conversation and really think about what people are trying to explain to you instead of just reacting. You’re not doing anything but hurting people.

I completely understand your point, and I’m going to leave this conversation in a moment, I just think that if people wish for racism to disppear for good, people need to stop making it an issue. By making it an issue, it is instantly bringing up the subject of race. I think its great with the idea of a black protagonist, of the idea of the shampoo not being good for her hair and whatnot. There should be more black protagonists, because what race the character is shouldn’t matter. I understand that in history, white people have been dominant in the genre, and it is unfair and it is hurtful and yes it certainly needs to change, I completely agree. But simply swapping it around doesn’t do anything but keep it as an issue and discussions like everything that has been posted about it has been made. All I am trying to say is that if everyone is treated equally race shouldn’t matter.
Show how great people can be whether they’re white or black or blue by making them the protagonist as this book does, don’t paint any race as being entirely bad. People are bad. Not people of a certain colour.

lawd have mercy.


Lord of the Rings isn’t relevant? Bitch, they just made another movie. That man is good and dead but his ideas live on and that’s the thing with novels. If it’s as popular now as it ever was then it’s fucking relevant. 
Blue people? Do you know some blue people? I don’t think anybody ever told the Blue man group they couldn’t do something because they’re blue.
Colour-blind white people everywhere need to stop making up races. 
White people are shitty. White people celebrate books with no POC or POC villains.  White people need to get over it when we get a taste of our own medicine.

toxicrants:

jhenne-bean:

goldenmochi:

bibliospork:

goldenmochi:

girljanitor:

goldenmochi:

kikismisandryservice:

girljanitor:

underthestarssofaraway:

jadedcoconut:

underthestarssofaraway:

girljanitor:

sourcedumal:

girljanitor:

mylesbiansensesaretinglingagain:

girljanitor:

Okay, so I had planned to write a big long review of this book, but you know what? It’s too fucking good.

You need to buy this book.

It is a fantasy novel. It is the best fantasy novel. It is in a fantasy universe populated with protagonists of color, and evil white people. There are a few good white people, but mostly evil white people who have wayyyy too much power and are evil.

You need to buy this book if only for the scene where the disabled Black woman protagonist picks up a bottle of white people shampoo, sniffs it, and just rolls her eyes and thinks, are they expecting me to use this astringent shit on my beautiful Maroneh(Black) woman hair?

It in particular is actually the second book in the series, but I accidentally read it out of order the first time (and have since read the other) and it didn’t particularly suffer from being read out of order.

You need to buy this book.

There is also a bit of sexy sex. The exact right amount of sexy sex.

I cannot tell you how much I fell in love with this book. All three, but in particular this one was my favorite.

There is also a significant amount of queer sex in the trilogy. QUEER PEOPLE OF COLOR.

This is N. K. Jemisin. She wrote this book.

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You need to buy all of her books.

I plan to.

just bought this, can’t wait to read it

IT’S SO GOOD. IT GAVE ME LIFE. ALL THREE ARE SO GOOD BUT THIS WAS MY FAVE BECAUSE OREE IS SO AMAZING.

I got to ‘fantasy world with protagonists of color’ and that was all I needed to know.

seriously, it’s sooooo good. It made me go out and buy fresh art supplies i maybe can’t afford just so I can start making fan art.

As a white chick, I think I’ll pass but thanks. I’m so done with being told I’m evil because of my skin color. 

Oh look a white person making it about themselves. Surprise, surprise.

Really, it’s not that simple. It’s not your skin color. It’s centuries of white supremacy and lack of (positive) POC representation, especially in Sci-fi & fantasy. Anyway…

I am definitely adding these to my reading list! Yay for more books that actually feature POC characters.

Either way, if it’s telling me my group, as a whole, obviously including me, is evil, then no thanks, I’ll pass. It’s awesome that PoC have books featuring main characters they can relate to; I just don’t want to touch it with a ninety-foot pole is all. xD Have a wonderful day!

I CAN SHOW YOU A WOOOOORLD

WHITENESS, SHIMMERING WHIIIITENESS

TELL ME WHITEY NOW WHEN DID YOU LAST READ A BOOK WITH POC

I CAN OPEN YOUR EYYYYYES

TAKE YOU WHITE GIRL BY WHITE GIRL

SO MANY SPARKLING WHITE GIRLS IN EVERY FUCKING BOOK

A WHOLE WHITE WOOOOOORLD

AN OLD AND TIRED POINT OF VIEWWWWWW

NO ONE TO TELL YOU NO!

OR WHAT TO READ!

OR SAY YOU CAN’T BE RACIST!!!!!

THE SAME FUCKING WOOOOOORLD!

THE SAME WHITE FAIRY VAGINA!

NO ONE TO GIVE A FUCK!

IF YOU READ THIS BOOK!

OR SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASSSHOOOOOOLEEEEE

this is the most beautiful song i’ve ever heard

*wipes tear from eye*

Wow… If this was any other fantasy book in the stance where people of colour were the bad guys and the white people were good there would be the usual uproar and complaint. So its a bit backwards for it to be happening again. 

Showing any overall race as ‘the bad guys’ isn’t a good thing. There are good people and bad people of all races, and it shouldn’t be limited to a particular race in general. Yes its unfair of the racism in fantasy novels of non-whites being treated as the generic ‘bad guys’ but having any over-arching group being labelled as ‘bad’ is the wrong way to go about doing something about this problem. 

But as a white girl obviously my opinion doesn’t matter in this regard. 

“the usual uproar and complaint” over the LoTR books and the “swarthy hordes” of sauron?

ohhhh by “uproar and complaint” you meant “multibillion dollar machine driven by infinite multinational book sales and six movies”

Are you enjoying your sour grapes since you had to walk so many miles to find them, white girl?

image

Lord of the Rings was written in a different age, in the 1950s. I’m not saying that’s a good excuse, but attitudes were different back then, so you can’t really compare things like that to modern books who should know better than to class ANY over-all race as the bad guys.

That’s really missing the point. (And it was the 1930s but whatever). The point is that you, as a white person, do not know what this book means to POC. We white people have been THE only mainstream good guys in scifi/fantasy since it started. The idea that we should all be color-blind is bull, because to so many people, white IS the default whether they realize it or not. And so it is not unreasonable for POC, especially WOC, to be excited about this book and what it represents to them. The chance for THEM to be seen as the good ones, in a scifi/fantasy book written by a WOC? Don’t even tell them they shouldn’t be happy about it. If it makes you uncomfortable to have our race cast as the baddies… well, maybe you should think about what it would feel like to have that be constant and unrelenting. I think you need to back off this conversation and really think about what people are trying to explain to you instead of just reacting. You’re not doing anything but hurting people.

I completely understand your point, and I’m going to leave this conversation in a moment, I just think that if people wish for racism to disppear for good, people need to stop making it an issue. By making it an issue, it is instantly bringing up the subject of race. I think its great with the idea of a black protagonist, of the idea of the shampoo not being good for her hair and whatnot. There should be more black protagonists, because what race the character is shouldn’t matter. I understand that in history, white people have been dominant in the genre, and it is unfair and it is hurtful and yes it certainly needs to change, I completely agree. But simply swapping it around doesn’t do anything but keep it as an issue and discussions like everything that has been posted about it has been made. All I am trying to say is that if everyone is treated equally race shouldn’t matter.

Show how great people can be whether they’re white or black or blue by making them the protagonist as this book does, don’t paint any race as being entirely bad. People are bad. Not people of a certain colour.

lawd have mercy.

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Lord of the Rings isn’t relevant? Bitch, they just made another movie. That man is good and dead but his ideas live on and that’s the thing with novels. If it’s as popular now as it ever was then it’s fucking relevant. 

Blue people? Do you know some blue people? I don’t think anybody ever told the Blue man group they couldn’t do something because they’re blue.

Colour-blind white people everywhere need to stop making up races. 

White people are shitty. White people celebrate books with no POC or POC villains.  White people need to get over it when we get a taste of our own medicine.

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girljanitor:

purpletomahawk:

girljanitor:

[snip gj]
purpletomahawk:

girljanitor:

underthestarssofaraway:

jadedcoconut:

underthestarssofaraway:

As a white chick, I think I’ll pass but thanks. I’m so done with being told I’m evil because of my skin color. 

Oh look a white person making it about themselves. Surprise, surprise.
Really, it’s not that simple. It’s not your skin color. It’s centuries of white supremacy and lack of (positive) POC representation, especially in Sci-fi & fantasy. Anyway…
I am definitely adding these to my reading list! Yay for more books that actually feature POC characters.

Either way, if it’s telling me my group, as a whole, obviously including me, is evil, then no thanks, I’ll pass. It’s awesome that PoC have books featuring main characters they can relate to; I just don’t want to touch it with a ninety-foot pole is all. xD Have a wonderful day!

I CAN SHOW YOU A WOOOOORLD
WHITENESS, SHIMMERING WHIIIITENESS
TELL ME WHITEY NOW WHEN DID YOU LAST READ A BOOK WITH POC
I CAN OPEN YOUR EYYYYYES
TAKE YOU WHITE GIRL BY WHITE GIRL
SO MANY SPARKLING WHITE GIRLS IN EVERY FUCKING BOOK
A WHOLE WHITE WOOOOOORLD
AN OLD AND TIRED POINT OF VIEWWWWWW
NO ONE TO TELL YOU NO!
OR WHAT TO READ!
OR SAY YOU CAN’T BE RACIST!!!!!
THE SAME FUCKING WOOOOOORLD!
THE SAME WHITE FAIRY VAGINA!
NO ONE TO GIVE A FUCK!
IF YOU READ THIS BOOK!
OR SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASSSHOOOOOOLEEEEE

You know, I kinda have a problem with this, as well. I’m white, but one thing I’ve made a major point in my life is to never see skin color. If you had told me this book was part of a wonderful fantasy series that would have been fine. If you had told me the protagonists were people of color and the antagonists where white: still fine. But you had to drive home the thought that it’s so superior just for those reasons, and that’s unsettling. Racism does work both ways. Someone else expressed disinterest in the book and you jumped down her throat because she was white and expressed an opinion. She doesn’t have to like this book. That doesn’t make her any less of a bad person, nor does it make me one (although I do still plan on reading them, despite the racist review). Think before you type, because you can spew just as much ignorant bullshit as the people you are calling racist.

Lucky for you, there are millions of other books that you can read, as well as movies and shows, that tell you you’re clean/good/special/amazing/default/perfect/beautiful because of your skin color! Lookie, here, I even HAVE A STARTER SET FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!
Perhaps they’ll have as POSITIVE an effect on you as they did a NEGATIVE effect on me!!!!!







OH WAIT!!!! QUICK WE NEED SOME DIVERSITY!!!
KATNISS TO THE RESCUE


Why do you insist on being so angry? I never denied what you said, I merely brought up the fact that what you are doing (attacking others for their opinions) does much more harm than good. Being white doesn’t make me better than you, you being of whatever descent you are (if you find this offensive, sorry, but I legitimately don’t know). From a quick scan of your blog, I can tell you seem to be a very angry person. Why don’t you calm the fuck down, stop attacking people for their opinions, and maybe do something constructive, like maybe, writing more books like this. I would happily read them.

You obviously didn’t read anything I said or linked to, so why the fuck should i listen to you? The detrimental effect that the ubiquitous whiteness of epic fantasy as a genre has had on my life, my physical health and my mental well-being goes on and on and on and ON.
You obviously have made another mistake of assuming that I only exist as words on this screen. I GET PAID TO SPEAK TO IGNORANT DOUCHEBAGS LIKE YOU IN THE EXACT WAY I AM NOW. It’s pretty fucking constructive, and it’s the only thing THAT WORKS, WILL EVER WORK, AND HAS EVER WORKED.
NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP, AND READ SOME WHITE PEOPLE BOOKS. MAYBE THAT WILL MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER, AND RAISE YOUR PRECIOUS LITTLE SELF ESTEEM AS MUCH AS IT LOWERED MINE.
IF YOU DON’T LIKE THE WAY I’M TALKING TO YOU, GOOD! I DON’T WANT YOU TO FUCKING LIKE IT! I WANT YOU TO BE TAKEN ABACK, ALARMED, AND UNCOMFORTABLE, BECAUSE THAT’S THE ONLY FUCKING THING THAT GETS THE ATTENTION OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN FAR TOO COMFORTABLE FOR FAR TOO LONG. 
SO YOU CAN TAKE YOUR TONE-POLICING, PEARL-CLUTCHING, “YOU SEEM LIKE AN ANGRY PERSON”, FUCKING GASLIGHTING, ABUSIVE RHETORIC AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS, BECAUSE THE LACK OF POC IN FANTASY FICTION HAD A NEGATIVE EFFECT ON MY LIFE AND HEALTH AND I AM FUCKING PISSED ABOUT IT. AND IF YOU DON’T FUCKING LIKE IT, TURN OF YOUR FUCKING COMPUTER AND GO BACK TO THE RACIST WHITE-CATERING SHITTY FUCKING WORLD.

girljanitor:

purpletomahawk:

girljanitor:

[snip gj]

purpletomahawk:

girljanitor:

underthestarssofaraway:

jadedcoconut:

underthestarssofaraway:

As a white chick, I think I’ll pass but thanks. I’m so done with being told I’m evil because of my skin color. 

Oh look a white person making it about themselves. Surprise, surprise.

Really, it’s not that simple. It’s not your skin color. It’s centuries of white supremacy and lack of (positive) POC representation, especially in Sci-fi & fantasy. Anyway…

I am definitely adding these to my reading list! Yay for more books that actually feature POC characters.

Either way, if it’s telling me my group, as a whole, obviously including me, is evil, then no thanks, I’ll pass. It’s awesome that PoC have books featuring main characters they can relate to; I just don’t want to touch it with a ninety-foot pole is all. xD Have a wonderful day!

I CAN SHOW YOU A WOOOOORLD

WHITENESS, SHIMMERING WHIIIITENESS

TELL ME WHITEY NOW WHEN DID YOU LAST READ A BOOK WITH POC

I CAN OPEN YOUR EYYYYYES

TAKE YOU WHITE GIRL BY WHITE GIRL

SO MANY SPARKLING WHITE GIRLS IN EVERY FUCKING BOOK

A WHOLE WHITE WOOOOOORLD

AN OLD AND TIRED POINT OF VIEWWWWWW

NO ONE TO TELL YOU NO!

OR WHAT TO READ!

OR SAY YOU CAN’T BE RACIST!!!!!

THE SAME FUCKING WOOOOOORLD!

THE SAME WHITE FAIRY VAGINA!

NO ONE TO GIVE A FUCK!

IF YOU READ THIS BOOK!

OR SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASSSHOOOOOOLEEEEE

You know, I kinda have a problem with this, as well. I’m white, but one thing I’ve made a major point in my life is to never see skin color. If you had told me this book was part of a wonderful fantasy series that would have been fine. If you had told me the protagonists were people of color and the antagonists where white: still fine. But you had to drive home the thought that it’s so superior just for those reasons, and that’s unsettling. Racism does work both ways. Someone else expressed disinterest in the book and you jumped down her throat because she was white and expressed an opinion. She doesn’t have to like this book. That doesn’t make her any less of a bad person, nor does it make me one (although I do still plan on reading them, despite the racist review). Think before you type, because you can spew just as much ignorant bullshit as the people you are calling racist.

Lucky for you, there are millions of other books that you can read, as well as movies and shows, that tell you you’re clean/good/special/amazing/default/perfect/beautiful because of your skin color! Lookie, here, I even HAVE A STARTER SET FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!

Perhaps they’ll have as POSITIVE an effect on you as they did a NEGATIVE effect on me!!!!!

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OH WAIT!!!! QUICK WE NEED SOME DIVERSITY!!!

KATNISS TO THE RESCUE

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Why do you insist on being so angry? I never denied what you said, I merely brought up the fact that what you are doing (attacking others for their opinions) does much more harm than good. Being white doesn’t make me better than you, you being of whatever descent you are (if you find this offensive, sorry, but I legitimately don’t know). From a quick scan of your blog, I can tell you seem to be a very angry person. Why don’t you calm the fuck down, stop attacking people for their opinions, and maybe do something constructive, like maybe, writing more books like this. I would happily read them.

You obviously didn’t read anything I said or linked to, so why the fuck should i listen to you? The detrimental effect that the ubiquitous whiteness of epic fantasy as a genre has had on my life, my physical health and my mental well-being goes on and on and on and ON.

You obviously have made another mistake of assuming that I only exist as words on this screen. I GET PAID TO SPEAK TO IGNORANT DOUCHEBAGS LIKE YOU IN THE EXACT WAY I AM NOW. It’s pretty fucking constructive, and it’s the only thing THAT WORKS, WILL EVER WORK, AND HAS EVER WORKED.

NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP, AND READ SOME WHITE PEOPLE BOOKS. MAYBE THAT WILL MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER, AND RAISE YOUR PRECIOUS LITTLE SELF ESTEEM AS MUCH AS IT LOWERED MINE.

IF YOU DON’T LIKE THE WAY I’M TALKING TO YOU, GOOD! I DON’T WANT YOU TO FUCKING LIKE IT! I WANT YOU TO BE TAKEN ABACK, ALARMED, AND UNCOMFORTABLE, BECAUSE THAT’S THE ONLY FUCKING THING THAT GETS THE ATTENTION OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN FAR TOO COMFORTABLE FOR FAR TOO LONG. 

SO YOU CAN TAKE YOUR TONE-POLICING, PEARL-CLUTCHING, “YOU SEEM LIKE AN ANGRY PERSON”, FUCKING GASLIGHTING, ABUSIVE RHETORIC AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS, BECAUSE THE LACK OF POC IN FANTASY FICTION HAD A NEGATIVE EFFECT ON MY LIFE AND HEALTH AND I AM FUCKING PISSED ABOUT IT. AND IF YOU DON’T FUCKING LIKE IT, TURN OF YOUR FUCKING COMPUTER AND GO BACK TO THE RACIST WHITE-CATERING SHITTY FUCKING WORLD.

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hotdecorum

BlackPeopleMeet.Com? That’s So Jim Crow

thegoddamazon:

thedarkchocolatedandy:

hotdecorum:

I’m sure I’m probably the last person to know about this, but did you know there is a website called BlackPeopleMeet.com and it’s for black people to date/friend each other.  BUT you have to be black.  What the fuck?  Are we in 2013 or 1963?  I feel like I should be inviting the neighbors over to my house for a dinner party.  The wife will cook Beef Wellington and Crepes Suzette.  There I go again, turning everything into food.  1960’s food does sound appealing though.  Rampant racism, but great food.  But I digress.

So I thought to myself “Well, maybe they’ll let people who happen to like black people register on that site as well even if they aren’t black.”  No!  The website is strictly for black people to date/friend other black people.  Isn’t that a form of segregation?  But worse, it’s auto-segregation.  

I’m not going to pretend that people don’t have a “type.”  Everyone does.  Some people might not find black people attractive.  Some might not find white people attractive.  Whatever, it’s your life.  But come on… a website made for one particular race and it’s only okay to register if you’re that race?  That is so racist towards everyone else.  

And let me make this point extremely clear; if there was a website called “whitepeopleonly.com” people would go crazy.  Because that’s racist!  blackpeoplemeet.com is the same damn thing.  Why am I the only one who has a problem with this? 

While I’m on the subject, I don’t even feel like gay people should have their own dating sites.  Although I agree it’s not the same thing because gay people only like a particular sex so it’s pointless to shop for a frozen turkey when you can only eat some damn beef for medical reasons.  Yes, in my world, vaginas are frozen turkey’s and penises are beef.  Anyways, it wouldn’t be the end of the world if every dating site just had a function to say “I’m a man seeking a man” or “I’m a woman seeking a woman.”  I’m a gay man and I have no problem with that.  Why not just have some kind of filter that says you’re seeking someone of the same race if you’re that against racial mixing?  Most websites have that anyway.

I am an extremely politically incorrect person. I make racist jokes all the time about every single race including my own.  But I will not stand for actual racism as blatant as this.  From any side.  Self-Segregation is just as bad as regular segregation.

Separate but equal?  That’s not how I want to live.  Equal rights for all, not just some.  

 You don’t really have any kind of right to tell BlackPeople how we interact with each other. So to be perfectly blunt your opinion on the matter is null and void. 

You seem to think that BlackPeopleMeet was simply created to shut out non-Black People at the exspense of all others.  Did you ever consider that BlackPeopleMeet was created specifically because other dating sites didn’t address the specific needs that Black People have when it comes to dating. 

Assuming that you’re not a Black person, you do not know how much of a minefield that mainstream dating sites can be. You don’t understand that types of hatred that you can randomly run into at any given time. 

So rather than waste time searching through profile after profile and actively avoiding those who would either harass you for turning them down, thinking that any Black person should just be happy that they’re getting attention, or fetishize you, thinking that they can turn you into their personal sexual “slave” and reduce you to nothing but a bunch of stereotypes and a skin-tone it’s more beneficial to create a space where these concerns aren’t a factor in the first place. 

And speaking as a gay person, your little rant on gay not having their owns dating sites is seriously ridiculous. 

Safe spaces exist for a reason, and just because you may not understand those reasons doesn’t mean that they’re not valid. 

And did you seriously tag this as Jim Crow? Really? 

Ugh. OP needs to go put their head in a microwave.

Did it ever occur to OP that maybe Black people don’t feel like doing the weird dating sites like OKCupid (in which every message I got was from a fetishizing white man or some stalking creeper to the point where I deleted my account altogether)?

Like…OP is just dumb as fuck.

The OP is also a damned lie. There are people of other races on the site. Like, if you can invest the time to write this hot mess, then you can spend 5 minutes reading up on the racism faced by black people on dating sites or actually look around the site. Oh wait, facts aren’t what the OP wants right? Right.

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twerks4loanpayments

Soooooooo, just a quick question

aunaturale4life:

If Kanye and Kim don’t get married BEFORE Kim has this child will y’all jump down her throat, condemn her, and say that she’s a bad woman because she “didn’t do it right”?

Cuz a lot of people jumped down all of the throats of black women who had children out of wedlock when Beyonce announced her pregnancy.

But, then again, I don’t think people will since Kim’s not a black woman and apparently only black women need to be chastised for having children out of wedlock *sarcasm*

Just wondering

Why ask questions we already know the answer to though? I mean, no one is chin checking rappers (including Kanye), for having kids without the benefit of clergy. People don’t give a tiny tin fuck about policing the sex lives of anyone but black women.

sinidentidades

sinidentidades:

One time, this white woman was trying to tell this Latina in class that she needed to “make her feminism more concerned with women generally.” Namely, she wanted her to “stop thinking of her race first.” The Latina responded by saying, “I will do that when white women start cleaning their own houses, until then, I’m not interested.” 

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seemedfine

lunion-fait-la-force:

knowledgeequalsblackpower:

theblackamericanprincess:

fletcherthekid:

bowtiesandjamjars:

Charlie Murphy talking about losing his temper when he was a bodyguard for his brother.

SOBBING

Lmaooooo

I looooooooove it!!!

Lol. Reminds me of the time this White lady assumed I played sports after she saw my mom wearing my school’s hoodie (musta got in on a sports scholarship right? surely not on academics -__-). 

When White people see a Black person in a position that’s not well beneath their’s they #1, make sure you know that’s not where they expected you to be. #2 make up excuses to justify you being where they think you’re not supposed to be #3 and those excuses are always tied to some stereotypes they have of Black people.

All this ^^^^^^^^

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whiteseducatingwhites

Dear white Vegans: This is Your Collection Agency Calling

whiteseducatingwhites:

This shit white vegans call “speciesism,” where human beings are supposedly “privileged” as a species over animals, doesn’t exist and here’s a reason why: there are nearly three times as many animal shelters in the US as there are shelters for battered women and their children. And this isn’t a new phenomenon. It is far less political, controversial, and socially inflammatory to house animals than it is to house abused women, which should immediately demonstrate structural priorities and “privileges” when it comes to these two “species.”

When white vegans compare the consumption of certain animals to racism, they are drawing a figurative comparison between human beings (who “oppress” animals) and white people (who oppress POC). By that white logic, they are also drawing a figurative comparison between animals (“oppressed” by human beings) and POC (oppressed by white people). This means they are reproducing the same kind of racist arguments that equate white folks with human beings and POC with animals. Sitting on my privileged white ass eating a hamburger is not now and will never be the same as racism. 

The cruelty, brutality, and abuse of factory farming is reprehensible. No one is denying that. But when white vegans compare eating meat to genocide, they ignore that this small privileged demographic (in comparison to the global population) is consuming excessive amounts of meat, which doesn’t even nearly constitute the same worldwide oppression and genocide POC experience. Claiming animals deserve the same civil/human rights as POC suggests that their experiences are identical, and once again equates people of color with animals. 

Consider the racial and class privilege white vegans have when making these dietary decisions in the midst of numerous farmer’s markets, health food stores, or accessible concentrations of grocery stores period. Whether it’s the ability to afford organic produce or the individual free time to prepare vegan meals, privileged personal consumer choices are not a solution to the abuse of factory farming or the social inequalities of racial oppression. Vegans with white skin maintain considerable white privilege over human beings of color who contend with the institutional and environmental racism of being segregated into neighborhoods without grocery stores, farmer’s markets, or spare land for home vegetable gardens.

As a side note: refusal to wear animal products like skins, furs, and/or leather does not morally free white vegans from wearing clothing made by oppressed people of color in sweat shops—even if that clothing comes from a thrift store.

Vegans, and white folks in general, are not qualified to compare or equate racial oppression with other forms of oppression (real or invented), because we do not know what racial oppression is like from our own experience. When millions of domesticated animals eat better than millions of POC living in poverty, a white justice crusade of personal food politics on the behalves of “oppressed” animals becomes its own punchline. What’s next? Extraterrestrialism? Where aliens oppress human beings with the use of anal probes? Wow, wait a second… isn’t it mostly white rednecks who get anally probed? Did I just discover reverse racism in extraterrestrials? Alert the white liberal media, yall.

—DD

snarkbender

TW: racism, dehumanising PoC, anti-blackness, white nonsense

velocicrafter:

back in Houston (this was maybe 10 years ago now?) this one time I was at my friend L’s house (Latino dude) & his white friend D was there & was telling me about some reality show or another that he was watching—I can’t remember if it was about cops or if it was about emergency rooms. Anyway, D was telling me about this scene he just watched & he was cracking up as he told me about this mother’s reaction to the fact that her son had just been killed. Someone’s pain regarding the death of their child was funny to this person.

Why was it funny?

What kind of sickness would make a person think this was funny?

“She said, ‘you done killeded my baby!’ AAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH!”

you see, it was funny because she spoke AAVE. She was black, so her pain wasn’t a moment for commiseration or sympathy, it was comedy to him.

white people, this is why nobody trusts you.

classicalallure

I don’t know what most white people in this country feel but I can only include what they feel from the state of their institutions. James Baldwin on The Dick Cavett Show [X]

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