I honestly have no issues with people who ship james/lily, honestly, I don’t care.
But if you dont understand why people ship snape/lily, let me just ask you one question
could you really let yourself fall in love with someone who’s bullying your best friend?
could you really let yourself fall in love with someone who wants to join a terrorist organization with an ideology built off the notion that you’re inferior and should be exterminated?
Severus didn’t join the death eaters until after he lost lily to James. And he was being corrupted by Malfoy and the other future death eaters. Take it from someone who was bullied before… You’re vulnerable to make mistakes, especially when you want to make it look like there’s nothing wrong with you. Bullying never steered anyone in the right direction.
Ummmmmm, but it was clear in canon that Snape intended to join the DEs when Lily confronted him about it after the Mudblood incident. That, on top of the friends he associated with (especially Avery and Mulciber), and his interest and prowess at dark arts like…he did not just decide to join a terrorist organization because Lily wouldn’t hop on his dick like can we NOT? Because first of all he didn’t lose Lily to James, he lost Lily because of his own fuck ups. Second of all, suggesting that Snape only joined the Death Eaters because he was corrupted is so weak. Snape had a fucked up childhood but he also believed that the DEs were a path to greatness for himself. To assume that he only joined up because he didn’t have Lily in his life and was peer-pressured into it is a really inaccurate assertion. And it also minimizes how fucked up Snape’s personal choices were, because he loved Lily but also loved the idea of being a DE, and he chose the latter over the former.
THAT’S what is so messed up about Snape’s story. It’s not about other people’s behavior prompting him to make shitty decisions, it’s about him making shitty decisions that he thought were good decisions that, in reality, led to the loss of Lily’s friendship and eventually the loss of Lily’s life.
We can acknowledge that shitty things happened in Snape’s youth, like a neglectful household and being bullied. But let’s not forget that Snape was also a prejudiced piece of shit who, by age 16, didn’t even deny that he planned to join the Death Eaters when his Muggle-born bestie called his ass out. You can have a shit upbringing and still have some responsibility for your destructive life choices.
And I’m saying all of this as a fan of Snape so…
To add to that, Snape, in their 5th year, called Lily a Mudblood. He did that, two entire years before Lily dated James, and when he did that, it was marked as the end of his relationship with Lily. From that we can decipher that he was still friends with Lily up until that point, and the fact that he said that word to the person that’s supposedly meant the world to him meant that he was already a terrible bigot.
He did that. He firebombed his relationship with Lily by falling into step with an ideology that labelled her as inferior, dirty, and would later call for her extermination - Lily didn’t do that to him by not being his friend anymore, since he’s the one that severed these ties. Lily didn’t do that by dating James, when that occurred two years after Snape made his choice and threw his lot in with the DEs.
What’s so tragic about Snape is that all his biggest torments save his abusive childhood, all his pain was absolutely self inflicted and brought on by himself and the choices he made. Harry Potter is ALL about choices, and Snape serves as a character who made all the wrong ones and becomes a bitter, cruel man over it.
Why is it so hard for some HP fans to grasp this concept is completely beyond me when JKR EXPLICITLY said he was a Black man several times in the books — so no, you can’t even pull out the old, ‘It never said he was Black’ excuse like so many of you do with Cho to erase her being Asian (and lack of a specified race is NOT proof that a character is white, by the way), or the ‘Well, Kingsley being a Black man is just the film’s interpretation, and it’s not necessarily book canon’ argument. In fact, I have even written out three quotes from the books below that mention him as being Black (bold emphasis mine) —
‘Yeah, I see what you mean, Remus,’ said a bald black wizard standing furthest back — he had a deep, slow voice and wore a single gold hoop in his ear — ‘he looks exactly like James.’ (OotP3)
‘And this is Kingsley Shacklebolt.’ He indicated the tall black wizard, who bowed. (OotP3)
Kingsley, bald, black, broad-shouldered; […] (DH4)
And don’t try to get around it with, ‘Oh, by “black”, it really means he has black hair’ — first, he’s bald (see the quotes above), and second, black-haired characters like Harry and James are NEVER described as ‘black wizards’, ever. So no, Kingsley Shacklebolt is NOT a super-pale, blond-haired white man who looks prototypically Aryan, nor does he look like Robert Sheehan or Zachary Levi. And don’t start that ‘But African-Americans can’t exist in Britain because they’re Americans, and “Harry Potter” isn’t set in Africa either’ bullshit — the UK isn’t an all-white country (hasn’t been for centuries), there are Black Britons, and you have to be kidding me if you think Black people only exist in the US or Africa.
We all know this, right? Okay, good. So we’re all on the same page.