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annakie:

kyashu:

whovianconfessions:

possible admin Andrea’s second application confession.

Yeah because walking the entire Earth on her own so she can organize the entire world to think one thought at one time, while still throwing red herrings for the Master to waste his time with, is the act of a thoroughly dependent woman.
And even before that, Martha spent most of her time as a companion making sure the Doctor didn’t die rather than the other way around.

Dear Lord, this.  From the very beginning Martha was figuring stuff out completely on her own and WAS independent. 
She delayed the Judoon and figured out the Doctor’s plan to make the plasmavore drink his blood to prove she was an alien.  She gave him her last breath and figured out the right way to CPR a two-hearted alien.
She restarted his stopped heart and came up with the final word to defeat the Carrionites.
She did at least half of the work saving herself in Gridlock, figuring out how to get away from the Macra and keeping herself, Cheen and Milo alive.
She figured out what the Doctor needed her to do in the Dalek episodes completely on her own, got back to him and delayed the Daleks to give him time to work on the antennea.
She (and Tish) lured Lazarus away, risking their lives and nearly dying while the Doctor sat there and played the organ.  She also got the DNA sample they studied to figure out what they were.
She turned him down, she walked away when he was offering her just to be a passenger.  She put her foot down and asked to be respected more than that, and he gave in.
She saved his life again in 42 by freezing the alien and keeping him concious.
SHE SPENT THREE MONTHS TAKING CARE OF HIM.  Three months all on her own, taking care of a man who thought she was something less than him.  HE RELIED ON HER FOR THREE MONTHS.  She got Joan to believe her, she helped convince him to open the watch. 
She took care of him for another two or three months in 1969, working and supporting him.
She figured out Yana was a Timelord. And SHE WALKED THE EARTH ALL ALONE FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR FOR HIM. She didn’t have any magic Tardis energy or metacrisis that solved the problem and saved the Earth in fifteen minutes.  Just her, and her alone, walking the Earth and telling a story.  I can’t think of anything more independent than that.
She did all of this while being compared to a woman she’d never met but was constantly living in the shadow of and being told she wasn’t as good as.  (And, btw, when she met that woman, she was happy for her and the Doctor!)
She was independent and competent and from the very beginning.  I’m sorry that she’s not Rose Tyler (who I am not bashing, I like her very much), but she is fabulous from minute one.  Look past your Rose bias and see series three from Martha’s point of view.

annakie:

kyashu:

whovianconfessions:

possible admin Andrea’s second application confession.

Yeah because walking the entire Earth on her own so she can organize the entire world to think one thought at one time, while still throwing red herrings for the Master to waste his time with, is the act of a thoroughly dependent woman.

And even before that, Martha spent most of her time as a companion making sure the Doctor didn’t die rather than the other way around.

Dear Lord, this.  From the very beginning Martha was figuring stuff out completely on her own and WAS independent. 

She delayed the Judoon and figured out the Doctor’s plan to make the plasmavore drink his blood to prove she was an alien.  She gave him her last breath and figured out the right way to CPR a two-hearted alien.

She restarted his stopped heart and came up with the final word to defeat the Carrionites.

She did at least half of the work saving herself in Gridlock, figuring out how to get away from the Macra and keeping herself, Cheen and Milo alive.

She figured out what the Doctor needed her to do in the Dalek episodes completely on her own, got back to him and delayed the Daleks to give him time to work on the antennea.

She (and Tish) lured Lazarus away, risking their lives and nearly dying while the Doctor sat there and played the organ.  She also got the DNA sample they studied to figure out what they were.

She turned him down, she walked away when he was offering her just to be a passenger.  She put her foot down and asked to be respected more than that, and he gave in.

She saved his life again in 42 by freezing the alien and keeping him concious.

SHE SPENT THREE MONTHS TAKING CARE OF HIM.  Three months all on her own, taking care of a man who thought she was something less than him.  HE RELIED ON HER FOR THREE MONTHS.  She got Joan to believe her, she helped convince him to open the watch. 

She took care of him for another two or three months in 1969, working and supporting him.

She figured out Yana was a Timelord. And SHE WALKED THE EARTH ALL ALONE FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR FOR HIM. She didn’t have any magic Tardis energy or metacrisis that solved the problem and saved the Earth in fifteen minutes.  Just her, and her alone, walking the Earth and telling a story.  I can’t think of anything more independent than that.

She did all of this while being compared to a woman she’d never met but was constantly living in the shadow of and being told she wasn’t as good as.  (And, btw, when she met that woman, she was happy for her and the Doctor!)

She was independent and competent and from the very beginning.  I’m sorry that she’s not Rose Tyler (who I am not bashing, I like her very much), but she is fabulous from minute one.  Look past your Rose bias and see series three from Martha’s point of view.

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thedoctordonnastardis:

whovianconfessions:

submitted by:  sonofatimelord

Um…just because she was training to be a doctor, doesn’t mean she wasn’t “innocent” enough to travel through time and space with an alien.
Does this mean that psychologists can’t travel with the Doctor? Would someone who studied the human mind/behavior be too rational and not naive enough for me to relate to? They’d have a fucking interesting viewpoint, I can guarantee you that! What about lawyers? Wouldn’t they make lucid arguments on what’s considered right and wrong in different societies and planets? Ethical debates on alien villains is one of the main components of Doctor Who episodes! What about cultured artists/musicians? People who can think outside the box, grasp abstract concepts easily, and possibly come up with creative solutions to an otherwise technological problem?
All of these different people with their different specialties would have had a lot to contribute to Doctor Who. Most would be rational people, but you have to ask: what is rational and what isn’t? The Doctor’s rationale is almost always different from a human’s rationale. It makes for good dialogue and a good contrast to human/timelord thinking. 
Also, human beings are almost always gonna be more naive than the Doctor. Just travel to the future, visit an alien planet, and they’re already out of their element… Martha didn’t know a lot of the Doctor’s techno-babble, didn’t know anything about the aliens, and she was definitely inspired when she visited William Shakespeare’s time!
Since when did a human have to be “simple” or “come from a boring life” for me to like/relate to her? The Doctor does inspire, but he’s also there to take you on adventures and teach you moral lessons, which Martha was all for. 
She was rational in the sense that she was levelheaded during a crisis, used her brains to come up with solutions, and doesn’t always believe what’s right in front of her. She does question the Doctor, just maybe not in the way others want her to. While she had her bad times (as all companions do), Martha did a brilliant job assisting the Doctor and serving as someone I can look up to. In RTD’s era, I think the Doctor was much safer with Martha than with the others, and it takes A LOT to protect the Doctor and keep him out of trouble. There’s more to being a companion than being awed by the Doctor. She’s reliable, trustworthy, a great role model for children and girls her own age, and has helped the doctor the most when he needed it; those qualities are far more important to me than some companion being  “in the dark and needing the Doctor to light the way.” 
She was a companion who had heart and brains. Sorry if she was too smart for you and you can’t admire/appreciate an intelligent woman in the Tardis. You want a companion who is inspired by the doctor? I want a companion who inspires the doctor.

PREACH, thedoctordonnastardis!
And really, how can ANY HUMAN BEING be too rational for time and space travel?
Martha kept her wits about her, and that’s what made her so awesome! In the Shakespeare code, she wanted to make sure that 1) She wouldn’t be taken as a slave (which is a LEGIT concern for a black woman traveling into the past since, you know, Britain WAS one of the colonizing forces in Africa that took slaves), and 2) That she didn’t fuck up the time/space continuum (LIKE ROSE DID SAVING SOMEONE WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DEAD).
In Family Values, she had to deal with TREMENDOUS racism and sexism, being lowered to the status of Mammy to save the Doctor’s life, and also with the fact that the Doctor wouldn’t love her. She put her pride to the side to save his ass. She didn’t break down. She didn’t freak out or mope around. She did what the fuck she had to do to make sure the man she loved stayed alive. And to top it off, she got NO love for it. Just a simple “Oh hey…uh thanks…And I’m not even going to acknowledge your feelings either.”
And when she had to walk around the world to save the Doctor’s ass AGAIN? Still level headed, calm and collected, even when the Master threatened both her life as well as her entire FAMILY. If that isn’t doesn’t inspire, I don’t know what the hell does.

I’m stuck on innocent wonder in a show where so many die to serve one purpose or another in pretty much every episode.

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thedoctordonnastardis:

whovianconfessions:

submitted by:  sonofatimelord

Um…just because she was training to be a doctor, doesn’t mean she wasn’t “innocent” enough to travel through time and space with an alien.

Does this mean that psychologists can’t travel with the Doctor? Would someone who studied the human mind/behavior be too rational and not naive enough for me to relate to? They’d have a fucking interesting viewpoint, I can guarantee you that! What about lawyers? Wouldn’t they make lucid arguments on what’s considered right and wrong in different societies and planets? Ethical debates on alien villains is one of the main components of Doctor Who episodes! What about cultured artists/musicians? People who can think outside the box, grasp abstract concepts easily, and possibly come up with creative solutions to an otherwise technological problem?

All of these different people with their different specialties would have had a lot to contribute to Doctor Who. Most would be rational people, but you have to ask: what is rational and what isn’t? The Doctor’s rationale is almost always different from a human’s rationale. It makes for good dialogue and a good contrast to human/timelord thinking. 

Also, human beings are almost always gonna be more naive than the Doctor. Just travel to the future, visit an alien planet, and they’re already out of their element… Martha didn’t know a lot of the Doctor’s techno-babble, didn’t know anything about the aliens, and she was definitely inspired when she visited William Shakespeare’s time!

Since when did a human have to be “simple” or “come from a boring life” for me to like/relate to her? The Doctor does inspire, but he’s also there to take you on adventures and teach you moral lessons, which Martha was all for.

She was rational in the sense that she was levelheaded during a crisis, used her brains to come up with solutions, and doesn’t always believe what’s right in front of her. She does question the Doctor, just maybe not in the way others want her to. While she had her bad times (as all companions do), Martha did a brilliant job assisting the Doctor and serving as someone I can look up to. In RTD’s era, I think the Doctor was much safer with Martha than with the others, and it takes A LOT to protect the Doctor and keep him out of trouble. There’s more to being a companion than being awed by the Doctor. She’s reliable, trustworthy, a great role model for children and girls her own age, and has helped the doctor the most when he needed it; those qualities are far more important to me than some companion being  “in the dark and needing the Doctor to light the way.”

She was a companion who had heart and brains. Sorry if she was too smart for you and you can’t admire/appreciate an intelligent woman in the Tardis. You want a companion who is inspired by the doctor? I want a companion who inspires the doctor.

PREACH, thedoctordonnastardis!

And really, how can ANY HUMAN BEING be too rational for time and space travel?

Martha kept her wits about her, and that’s what made her so awesome! In the Shakespeare code, she wanted to make sure that 1) She wouldn’t be taken as a slave (which is a LEGIT concern for a black woman traveling into the past since, you know, Britain WAS one of the colonizing forces in Africa that took slaves), and 2) That she didn’t fuck up the time/space continuum (LIKE ROSE DID SAVING SOMEONE WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DEAD).

In Family Values, she had to deal with TREMENDOUS racism and sexism, being lowered to the status of Mammy to save the Doctor’s life, and also with the fact that the Doctor wouldn’t love her. She put her pride to the side to save his ass. She didn’t break down. She didn’t freak out or mope around. She did what the fuck she had to do to make sure the man she loved stayed alive. And to top it off, she got NO love for it. Just a simple “Oh hey…uh thanks…And I’m not even going to acknowledge your feelings either.”

And when she had to walk around the world to save the Doctor’s ass AGAIN? Still level headed, calm and collected, even when the Master threatened both her life as well as her entire FAMILY. If that isn’t doesn’t inspire, I don’t know what the hell does.

I’m stuck on innocent wonder in a show where so many die to serve one purpose or another in pretty much every episode.